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The Un-Fun Friends: Let’s Talk About It is a podcast for the girls who feel like too much and not enough — all at once.

Hosted by two “not-so-fun” friends who met in a 1 Corinthians 13 small group on their college campus and bonded over being too deep for just brunch, this show is your weekly permission slip to talk about what most people won’t.

From singleness, comparison, and body image to grief, prayer, chronic illness, and burnout — we go there. Unfiltered but rooted, honest but hopeful.

So if you’re tired of surface-level small talk and want something real, grab your journal (or your margarita), and let’s talk about it.

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Meet your hosts

Madelyn and Ella are two not-so-fun friends who would rather dive deep than keep it surface-level. Bonded by their love for Jesus, heartfelt conversations, and a shared tendency to overthink everything, they’re the kind of girls who cry (well, just Ella) in the car one minute and hype you up the next. They’re passionate about their people, mental health, movement, and making space for the messy middle of life.

Whether they’re on a long drive blasting music with the windows down or sitting in silence with a journal and coffee, they believe in showing up with honesty, empathy, and maybe a little humor too.

About Ella & Madelyn

Ella

Ella is the classic oldest daughter—responsible, driven, and always feeling like she has to hold it all together. A recovering perfectionist and people pleaser, she’s walked through eating disorder recovery and now uses her voice to advocate for mental health, self-compassion, and the beauty of healing. Her story includes years of wrestling with trauma & body image, learning to untangle her worth from performance, and slowly rebuilding a healthier, grace-filled relationship with food. She’s still navigating pieces of that healing today, choosing recovery again and again, even on the days it feels messy or unfinished. She’s an athlete at heart who loves to move her body and hit a good workout, not just for strength but for sanity. After years of using fitness as punishment, she’s relearning what it means to move with joy—to enter the gym with gratitude instead of pressure, and to honor her body instead of demanding perfection from it. Ella is also a nanny who adores kids, and the little ones she cares for have healed parts of her she didn’t know were still broken—teaching her gentleness, reminding her she’s safe to be soft, and offering a kind of unconditional love that has stitched together places she once believed were unrepairable. Loving them has slowly taught her how to love her own inner child too, to see herself with the same tenderness and patience she gives them. Ella is also a loud-and-silly friend who finds joy in making others laugh & a social work student passionate about serving others with empathy and intention. She loves Jesus deeply and thrives on heartfelt conversations, diving into Scripture, and asking real, uncomfortable questions. Whether she’s breaking down big emotions or breaking out in dance, she’s the kind of friend who will drop everything to show up and remind you you’re never too much and always enough.

Madelyn

Madelyn is the baby of five—loud, funny, and just the right amount of dramatic. Growing up with a non-verbal autistic sister and navigating an autoimmune disease gave her a tender heart, deep empathy, and a perceptive way of understanding others. A History and Spanish major with ADHD that’s slightly out of pocket, she’s a master procrastinator, a loyal, honest, and dependable friend, and the kind of person who adapts to whatever life throws at her. She loves kids and has spent years babysitting, showing up with equal parts flexibility, creativity, and patience. When she’s not studying or wrangling a toddler, you’ll probably find her doing CrossFit or HYROX—two things she loves even when they majorly humble her. Fitness, for her, isn’t about getting smaller; it’s about getting stronger. She is passionate about approaching movement with a healthy mindset, believing the hardest part of most things—the gym, a new hobby, a calling—is simply taking the “first step” and “walking through the door.” Madelyn also loves good food, great music, and rewatching movies she’s already seen a dozen times. An animal lover at heart, she fosters furry friends whenever she can, even when goodbyes hurt. She also battles anxiety, learning day by day what it means to slow down, breathe, and let God meet her exactly where she is. As a recovering people pleaser, she’s learning to rest in her identity in Christ, to trust others fully, and to release the pressure to hold everything together on her own. At the core of it all, her faith is her foundation. She loves to worship and clings to Scripture as the anchor for her identity and the lens through which she lives her life. She trusts that God is the one who walks with us through every “first step”—from the gym doorway to the big unknowns of life. Creative, sassy, and deeply empathetic, she’s the friend who’ll ask the deep questions, cry-laugh with you, get lost in a car jam session, remind you to take a breath, and encourage you that you don’t have to have it all together, because she definitely doesn’t either.